Black Girl White Girl are two girls that come together like Goku and Vegeta to create awesomeness. Their combined efforts put out a highly likable RAW sound that is very easy to feel and get into, supported by artists like Paca Osuna, Stacey Pullen and Rich Wakley while being praised by Mixmag and DMC World Mag. We got to have a good chat with the duo about life and music, here is what they had to say –
A stranger can end up being your best friend, what’s the story behind how the two of you met?
That is exactly what happened with us actually! We met at ADE in 2012, hung out a bit during that time and found out we have a lot in common. We also happened to like the same music, so over the course of 2013 we hatched a plan to start working on the Black Girl / White Girl project. Our first release came at the end of 2014 on Worthy’s Anabatic Records, and since then we just kinda hit the ground running and kept making music non-stop.
How did you go from buds to a dynamic music producing duo?
Well music plays a big part in both of our lives, it always has, so it wasn’t a far stretch. All our lives both of us felt like we were meant to make music, share music with others and be a part of that movement, you know? So the next logical step was for us to combine forces and just do it, no limitations and no compromising.
Being a duo can sometimes be tough, how do you manage your disagreements?
Haha, you just talk it out man. Sometimes it can get a bit heated but then we just realize that we both want what we think is best for the music, so we always resolve those things really quickly.
Who’s Batman and who’s Robin? – Or is it more a Batman / Alfred relationship (Let’s face it Alfred is Batman’s real super power)
Whoever has inspiration and the best idea(s) gets to sit behind the wheel.
Let’s talk behavior, who’s the bad cop, who’s the good cop?
We’re more like the prisoners breaking out of jail.
What are we doing when we’re not working on music? Haunted horror houses?
Mostly playing with Louie, he’s our Yorkshire terrier. We do indeed love horror movies but haunted horror houses are usually just not scary enough.. We like cooking, cocktails, going to the beach. Wish we could say we go out a lot but it’s just not possible with the amount of time we spend in the studio. Which we gladly do though because we figure, if our music does well, we’ll get invited to play at those clubs eventually. Dedication!
What are your ultimate holiday destinations?
Anywhere the weather is nice and the food is good, with friendly people, some cool underground clubs, and where we can travel to with Louie of course. Otherwise we’re just not going, lol.
You’re avid horror movie fans, do you have a favorite horror movie producer? What is it most about their work that appeals to you?
We are indeed! But we’re not like, mega movie buffs or anything. We like scary movies and series, but not the gore stuff. Mostly thriller-horrors with really good scares. Some of our all time favs: “As Above, So Below”, “Sinister”, “The Birds”, “The Forrest”. And for series, “Outcast”, “American Horror Story”, “Bates Motel” and “The Exorcist”.
Are most of your favorite artists from similar genres to your own, or do other worlds reach in with their influence?
I guess you could say so yes, electronic music in general is a favorite. But we’re always open to listening to all kinds of music though.
If you could add your current releases to 1 movie as its’ entire sound-track, what would we be watching?
Probably “Party Monster”.
You both have to pick an animal, what do we have?
Can either of you identify any key moments in your childhood that lead you down the path of chasing (and creating) the musical dream?
T: I think the main thing was my parents, who always taught me that I can do anything I want as long as I believe in myself. That, and never allowing myself to give up, no matter how hard it gets. So I really love music, and I have all the right reasons and motivation to pursue it, guess I might as well do it right?!
K: For me, I used to be at home alone with my brother a lot growing up. We often listened to music together. And I always got excited from the music. Music took me on a journey, so I’ve always wanted to understand why it makes people feel that way. I’ve always wanted to recreate that excitement by making my own music, that really drives me till today.
Wax is back. With vinyl sales getting higher every day and clubs and venues turning to vinyl only, what do you make of the trend?
Ahh man, you know.. It’s cool that people are still interested in buying a physical product. Technology made a lot of things easier for sure, but the existence / trendiness of the one doesn’t mean the other should disappear. We don’t think it’s right to exclude digital in venues, it’s all about what you do and not how you do it. Also, without all that digital technology we wouldn’t be where we are today.
What came first for you, dj’ing or production?
DJing, for Karin. For Ty it was production.
Can you recall your first experience making music?
T: Yes, lots of messing about and thinking ‘how the fuck does this work?!’
K: Same, lol.
You’re currently living in Israel, are there any notable local differences to the dance music scene?
We’re living in between Tel Aviv in Amsterdam, so yeah we really do feel the differences. The Dutch scene is known for its variety, lots of new initiatives popping up all the time, big ass festivals, etc. Guess you could say Tel Aviv is the exact opposite in some ways, there are just a few big clubs and most people just go there all the time because they’re the only ones with the budget to bring international DJs. It feels quite limiting, to be honest.
How about the music? You yourselves are drivers of influence – does Israel made ‘house’ have unique traits?
The music people love is mostly trance, some house and then the biggest part is techno. People love what they know here, so that’s mostly what you’ll see on the line ups. Guess it’s cool if you like that sort of thing. But you can probably tell it’s not really for us, lol.
Over the years, the genre walls have blurred, do you think this is a good or bad thing and why?
That’s so great. We’re not purists in any way, so we think it’s a good thing when people can draw inspiration from all sorts of directions and make something fresh. Think it’s also very important for the next generations to come, to keep ideas novel and interesting.
What would you say the #1 production trick you have learned has been? The one thing that made l life a whole lot easier, or perhaps a method that helped define your style?
Saturating the living shit out of the drums! Haha, guess you could say we do that a lot. Something a bit less conventional maybe, but we like to use a transient shaper on our basses. It makes shit sound so crisp! We also love to layer our hats, but this can be tricky sometimes because of phasing issues, so it can take some time to get it exactly right. We also love nudging percussive elements just off the grid, using bit reduction to make vocals sound used & abused, using Ableton’s track delay and also building FX chains. But most importantly, we have a template we use for all productions. It’s got all the colour coded tracks, busses, compressors, saturators, delays, EQs, VSTs etc. already set up how we like it. Definitely saves us a couple of hours every time!
#1 thing we love about Ableton, the color coding! What is your favorite thing about Ableton as opposed to Logic or Reason?
Oh yes, we love to colour code! Because some colours just don’t work, haha. Favourite thing in Ableton is definitely the ease of use, plus the time stretching is just awesome. To be fair, we never used Reason. We did try Logic for a brief period but it was a no-go for us. Some people say Ableton over complicate things but it’s just second nature to us.
You’re users of Diva (which makes amazing rich bass-sounds), Massive and Arturia synths.. What 1 synth do you find most essential?
We do use those, but lately we’ve fallen in love with Native Instruments Kontakt. It’s just so versatile if you want to sample some old DX7 sounds or any other vintage synth for that matter. It’s definitely pretty essential for us right now.
What’s next for BGWG?
Well, we’re in a very exciting part of our career. If things go the way we hope, 2017 is going to be a really good year for us. For us, 2016 was all about establishing our sound and pushing out tons of new music. It has been our most productive year to date, which resulted in some really cool things and attention from the right people. For instance, this year we’re taking part in Amsterdam Dance Event for the first time, which is really huge for us. If you remember, this is where we met after all.. So it’s definitely very exciting, most of all because we get to play two times. Once with our Lauter Unfug family at their showcase, and the second one is with the Deep House Injection crew over at AMW.FM for their ADE DJ Marathon. After ADE we have more international gigs on the schedule. These will all be announced soon so keep an eye out! We also have new music coming out soon on Great Stuff and Lauter Unfug among others, and our brand new single “Bloom” is dropping October 17th on Blue Dye. And much more to be announced soon..
Of course, we can find you on Soundcloud and for anyone holidaying to your area where can we most likely found your sound?
Right now we’re staying in Amsterdam so feel free to hit us up for a personal tour / some tips. We’ll show you all the good things the city has to offer. 😉
It’s been a pleasure talking with the two of you, keep the good beats coming! – You can catch links to everything you need for your dose of BGWG on their website – blackgirl-whitegirl.com
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